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Posted: **Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:28 am**

ace_012 wrote:
staxx wrote:the less men you have to compete against for women.

I have no competition.

Thats because you live in a community full of homosexual men.

Sorry Pacman, only read about half your post as i'm in a hurry at the moment...

But lets put something in perspective here...

Would anyone object to two females getting together and doing stuff? Probably not... This is also considered gay.
Now, when we put two males together people automatically become less humble about the situation.

Posted: **Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:27 am**

ace_012 wrote:You know dpm your obnoxious posts in reply to any religiously sensitive topic that seems to come around is starting to get real old. It seems like every time someone has their own opinion that isn't the same as yours automatically makes them ignorant, and you write a book on why you are right. My question is if it is ok for say, crait to support gay people because he supports the lifestyle or what not, why is it considered rude if someone else disagrees with that lifestyle? I don't understand why I'm considered a dumb donkey if I choice to believe something different then you, or trust the teachings of the bible.

And if it is ok to be gay then why is there males and females on this earth? Isn't the whole point of life to just reproduce and populate the world? If not then why are we here?

My post is only obnoxious if you choose to look at it that way. It's all stuff that happened in history and you can check up on everything I said. There's the old saying that if you do not learn your history then you are doomed to repeat it, or something along those lines. To deny history seems obnoxious to me... or denying an entire group of people basic rights "just because you don't agree with" what they do sexually, in their home, in their bedrooms.

More wars have been fought over religion or tied in with religion than anything else. Seems obnoxious to teach peace, loving your fellow brethren, and then reasoning with murder. Now, I can agree that, at times, I may not be sympathetic towards those of Christian faith, but at the same rate, if any gay members of the site or guests come here and see that people are so insensitive towards accepting gay people and want to deny them rights "just because they don't believe in" what gay people do privately, that seems quite more obnoxious to me rather than informing people with an educated opinion and citing events that can be proven according to documented historical events.

I'm sure any gay person doesn't "believe in" the straight lifestyle that most people may lead, but that doesn't make the greatest mass of gays pushing for equal rights to want to make it so that straight couples can't marry just because "gay people don't believe in that". A marriage should be a union of faith in your partner and enduring love and understanding. Any gay couple can achieve those things and for them not to be able to marry, in my opinion, is sad and I feel bad for gays in this manner. Gays throughout history were allowed to marry legally and such was socially acceptable to even have a gay emperor of the Roman Empire. You could easily say that Christianity is an obnoxious religion because it discriminates against gays so hard to the extent that the practice which used to be fine to take part in is now mostly obsolete in the world. There are countries that allow gay marriage though and a few that are looking at legislation right now that may allow it.

My post is insensitive, but not obnoxious.

-DarkPacMan77-

Posted: **Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:34 am**

ace_012 wrote:I don't understand why I'm considered a dumb donkey if I choice to believe something different then you, or trust the teachings of the bible.

How can you trust those teachings when just about everything in there is contradicted? Even the part about not judging others then says you should use discretion when judging. How could anyone pick and choose what they like in the book and then say they "follow the teachings" but then ignore the rest unless they never actually read the book themselves?

ace_012 wrote: if it is ok to be gay then why is there males and females on this earth? Isn't the whole point of life to just reproduce and populate the world?

This is another contradiction and misconception. Yes it says be fruitful and multiply but at the same time Adam and Eve were not supposed to reproduce. Her punishment was "pain in childbirth" which is natural for all mammals.

The tree of knowledge is a metaphor for the sex act not an actual tree. That is why anytime the word "knowledge" is used it frequently means the union between a man and woman resulting in offspring (examples of which are too numerous to post here), if you read the bible you know what I am talking about. Yes Soddam and Gomorrah was destroyed because the people were among other things gay; but later it's ok for David to appreciate Jonathan's love which is described as being stronger or "more than that of a woman"?

On that note... How come some animals display what we would call homosexual traits? Are they not "god's" creatures too?

Posted: **Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:42 am**

well its what i believe and no one can change my mind on that. But i am still considerate to others beliefs. i dont care if somone is gay just dont say i hate you cuz i dont agree with you, that i am not open minded cuz i dont believe in it. I have gay friends at work and they are very nice and respectful twords my comment of "i dont agree with it, but do what you want and dont get angry at me cuz its not what i believe in" and we get along fine.

I am a christian and will be always. Dont diss me cuz of MY BELIEFS. cuz its the same F****N thing with this thread is trying to say.

I hear dont say you dont believe cuz its RUDE to say that against how they BELIEVE
Well you know what why is christianity being abused, why is it ok to be rude twards me and not them?????
its ok to mock my religion and crap on it, but to not agree with Homoasexuality is not ok.

And the whole Marriage isnt what it used to be think i dont buy.(not looking at it from a christian point of view here) its like christmas. heres how. marriage since there has been, has been between a MAN and a Woman, Christmas has been a holiday ppl of all religions celebrate. Now Marriage wants to be changed to include same sex couples. And Chirstmas is not allowed to be Cristmas because it has CHRIST in it and we have to say Happy Hollidays . Dang man christmas is christmas cuz thats what it has ALWAYS been. Ppl of ALL religions and sexual orentation celebrate it. My point is if we have to change Christmas because its "offensive" why cant we make a new thing for marriage to? Do you see what i am trying to get across?

it seem s to me like Christianity is singled out. Its being taken out of everything, but all other religions are ok. they dont want kids praying (i did anyway

) but muslim kids HAVE to pray at 3, do they get to?.....YES. if one religion is not alowed the NONE are. Not pickign on muslims just used at example.

I am not upset with anyone just makling a point. just want to say that. i really like all of you and how its so "mixed" here so to say.

Posted: **Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:23 am**

Im homophobic so no. Sorry but i am. im not gona put my complete feel i just dislike everything about it.

Posted: **Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:25 am**

Alex Finlay wrote:Im homophobic so no. Sorry but i am. im not gona put my complete feel i just dislike everything about it.

LMAO OMG thats just funny as h**l, i am just laughing caause al lthe long reply's then all of a sudden alex goes "i am a Homophobe" LOL

Posted: **Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:48 pm**

DarkPacMan77 wrote:
ace_012 wrote:You know dpm your obnoxious posts in reply to any religiously sensitive topic that seems to come around is starting to get real old. It seems like every time someone has their own opinion that isn't the same as yours automatically makes them ignorant, and you write a book on why you are right. My question is if it is ok for say, crait to support gay people because he supports the lifestyle or what not, why is it considered rude if someone else disagrees with that lifestyle? I don't understand why I'm considered a dumb donkey if I choice to believe something different then you, or trust the teachings of the bible.

And if it is ok to be gay then why is there males and females on this earth? Isn't the whole point of life to just reproduce and populate the world? If not then why are we here?

My post is only obnoxious if you choose to look at it that way. It's all stuff that happened in history and you can check up on everything I said. There's the old saying that if you do not learn your history then you are doomed to repeat it, or something along those lines. To deny history seems obnoxious to me... or denying an entire group of people basic rights "just because you don't agree with" what they do sexually, in their home, in their bedrooms.

More wars have been fought over religion or tied in with religion than anything else. Seems obnoxious to teach peace, loving your fellow brethren, and then reasoning with murder. Now, I can agree that, at times, I may not be sympathetic towards those of Christian faith, but at the same rate, if any gay members of the site or guests come here and see that people are so insensitive towards accepting gay people and want to deny them rights "just because they don't believe in" what gay people do privately, that seems quite more obnoxious to me rather than informing people with an educated opinion and citing events that can be proven according to documented historical events.

I'm sure any gay person doesn't "believe in" the straight lifestyle that most people may lead, but that doesn't make the greatest mass of gays pushing for equal rights to want to make it so that straight couples can't marry just because "gay people don't believe in that". A marriage should be a union of faith in your partner and enduring love and understanding. Any gay couple can achieve those things and for them not to be able to marry, in my opinion, is sad and I feel bad for gays in this manner. Gays throughout history were allowed to marry legally and such was socially acceptable to even have a gay emperor of the Roman Empire. You could easily say that Christianity is an obnoxious religion because it discriminates against gays so hard to the extent that the practice which used to be fine to take part in is now mostly obsolete in the world. There are countries that allow gay marriage though and a few that are looking at legislation right now that may allow it.

My post is insensitive, but not obnoxious.

-DarkPacMan77-

Dude that is why I said a while ago some atheists are the most insensitive jerks I've ever met. It's like it's your mission in life to piss on Christianity, and anyone who supports it. For some reason every thread that can be related to Christianity turns into you and que or someone else nit picking and dissecting someones post, and find evidence on the internet how to prove them wrong. So if murdering is someones lifestyle (serial killers) then it is ok to do that? What about alcoholics who drink and drive, that's their lifestyle so it must be ok for them to do that right? I believe the cliche goes something like "opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks." If a gay person visited this forums and didn't join because some members have their own opinion about the matter then they need to get off the internet. What if a Christian visits this forum and sees your posts pissing on Christianity? How is that any different?(I had to through some sort of bb code, since yur posts are always so colorful) Because I don't give historical reasons behind my own opinions right? So because im insensitive towards homosexuals that makes me obnoxious but because you are insensitive towards mostly Christianity that doesn't make you obnoxious at all? Your more hypocritical then most Christians I know!

And the last comment I made que was trying to correspond with like a scientology or atheist point of view, since that's the only purpose of human life I would think that those groups would believe. But to be honest I can't believe I even took the time to write back, in the end it's my opinion and just because I have an opinion doesn't make me ignorant or obnoxious, what does make you obnoxious is when someone flaunts around the falseness of someone elses opinion

Posted: **Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:00 pm**

Doesnt want to sound like im "Pi**ing" on Christinanity but irl more hardcore christians will get anoyed at athiests then Athiest>Christians.
What ever the beleief w/e the view you should respect it anyways, however Scientology is for r/tards.

Posted: **Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:01 pm**

who are homosexuals hurting by getting married?

Posted: **Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:53 pm**

light_alistor wrote:who are homosexuals hurting by getting married?

its not about is it hurting anyone. just about how you feel about the subject and do you agree or dissagree. thats all.

(but turned into a huge mess, wich is fun)

But i am not trying to be an donkey, i just dont want ppl pisssing on my religion and justifying EVERYTHING else. I respect you, I havent said a mean thing against you or your beliefs, just a simple i dont agree with it, so please respect me. I do admit a lot of christians are hippacritical and are judging and condeming ppl to hell if they are different, not me i cant do that i am not god and i dont know your soul so dont treat me like it

Posted: **Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:54 pm**

Let gays marry so that they can shut up about their low divorce rate.

This pretty much sums up the biblical position on marriage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw

It pretty much says it is between a man and woman because marrying another man would be immoral.

Posted: **Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:25 pm**

Alex Finlay wrote:Doesnt want to sound like im "Pi**ing" on Christinanity but irl more hardcore christians will get anoyed at athiests then Athiest>Christians.
What ever the beleief w/e the view you should respect it anyways, however Scientology is for r/tards.

hi fives

Posted: **Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:29 pm**

airplanes18 wrote:
Alex Finlay wrote:Doesnt want to sound like im "Pi**ing" on Christinanity but irl more hardcore christians will get anoyed at athiests then Athiest>Christians.
What ever the beleief w/e the view you should respect it anyways, however Scientology is for r/tards.

hi fives

What the heck does that even mean?
I haven't read all of the other posts yet from today, but I just want to ask, can you convert that into English?

Posted: **Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:36 pm**

que13x wrote:Let gays marry so that they can shut up about their low divorce rate.

all im saying is call it something else. is that so hard that someone has to get in a hissy fit about it? just name it different to it isnt marriage. simple.

and crait- were you directing that question to ME or ALEX? i was high fiving alex on the hole "STFU ALREADY--- Scientology is for retards" thing. i thought it was funny

Posted: **Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:47 pm**

airplanes18 wrote:
que13x wrote:Let gays marry so that they can shut up about their low divorce rate.

all im saying is call it something else. is that so hard that someone has to get in a hissy fit about it? just name it different to it isnt marriage. simple.

and crait- were you directing that question to ME or ALEX? i was high fiving alex on the hole "STFU ALREADY--- Scientology is for retards" thing. i thought it was funny

I meant him.

And if you call marriage something else, then it isn't marriage- And that's what most gays are wanting.

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