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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:05 am
by AdventWolf
He was cool, I never paid much attention to him but I respected him.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:12 am
by TheTyler0013
que13x wrote:OH Tyler give it a break, it is civil.

Airplanes remembers the conversation well. I am just telling my side for the record since this thread is a continuation of our private conversation which is now being aired in public. I was also invited here via PM by Airplanes. I would have ignored the thread otherwise.

Read the second line at the beginning of this thread. I am part of this thread and have the right to explain myself. I had to clear the record because numerous people here like to twist and spin things into something that isn't.



OH another thing I forgot.

airplanes18 wrote:Billy got his start at age 15, when he sold Oxi-clean on QVC.

Billy Mays died at the age of 50 in 2009. That means he was born in 1958. That would make him 15 in 1973. QVC wasn't founded until 1986 and Oxiclean wasn't branded until the 90s, May's would have been at least 32. So Mays wasn't selling anything on QVC at the age of 15.

Civil enough?


OH i am not upset lol just want to keep the confrontation lower that what it has been =D didnt try to offend

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:47 pm
by The Cookie Monster
awesome post airplanes, never knew who he was but yeah RIP Mays....

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:07 pm
by airplanes18
que13x wrote:OH Tyler give it a break, it is civil.

Airplanes remembers the conversation well. I am just telling my side for the record since this thread is a continuation of our private conversation which is now being aired in public. I was also invited here via PM by Airplanes. I would have ignored the thread otherwise.

Read the second line at the beginning of this thread. I am part of this thread and have the right to explain myself. I had to clear the record because numerous people here like to twist and spin things into something that isn't.



OH another thing I forgot.

airplanes18 wrote:Billy got his start at age 15, when he sold Oxi-clean on QVC.

Billy Mays died at the age of 50 in 2009. That means he was born in 1958. That would make him 15 in 1973. QVC wasn't founded until 1986 and Oxiclean wasn't branded until the 90s. Mays would have been at least 32 years old in 1990. So Mays wasn't selling anything on QVC at the age of 15.

Civil enough?



first off, remove the post.

second iit was HSN, my bad. my mom was talking about dumb things on qvc when she scrolls through and sees it, so i absently put down qvc. god damn que, pick it the f**k apart would yah? dont be an donkey cuz i retaliated.

and 3rd. my name is ALL LOWER CASE. How many times do i have to tell you people!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:20 pm
by crait
airplanes18 wrote:and 3rd. my name is ALL LOWER CASE. How many times do i have to tell you people!

Sounds like me, now. XD

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:06 pm
by TheTyler0013
NO FRIGGIN FIGHTING!!!!!

both you can Q spam each others PM's. i dont want to see it anymore.

Not mad just frustrated.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:23 am
by que13x
TheTyler0013 wrote:NO FRIGGIN FIGHTING!!!!!

both you can Q spam each others PM's. i dont want to see it anymore.

Not mad just frustrated.
Quit acting like a mod. If you are truly frustrated then report this to the mods and let them decide instead of screaming and spamming just to get your post count up. Your post is actually more spam than anything else here, think about it.
airplanes18 wrote:first off, remove the post.

I will gladly remove my post after you delete or completely revise yours to reflect accuracy.
airplanes18 wrote:second iit was HSN, my bad. my mom was talking about dumb things on qvc when she scrolls through and sees it, so i absently put down qvc.

HSN came out in 1985. In 1985 Billy Mays was 27 not 15. "Orange Glo" didn't exist to the world until 1987 and wasn't sold on TV until 1996. Oxiclean wasn't sold on TV until 1997 when it was bundled with Orange Glo. In 1997 Mays was 39 not 15.

It is a big exaggeration perhaps even a lie to say that Mays was 15 and selling Oxiclean on TV as originally stated. As I have demonstrated, Orange Glo came first then Oxiclean, not the other way around.

I would not call it picking a story apart if it's so blatantly wrong.

Sadly, after all the research I have done to fix this thread I now feel I know more about Billy Mays than airplanes does. *cold shiver*

This goes for everyone.
When you post you should try your best to provide accurate information, that's what gives the posts value. A post is worthless if someone has to do research on top of what you have submitted to find the truth about what you posted.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:44 am
by TheTyler0013
ugh not trying to act like mod. just saying. this site had gotten to a bad point with people fighting on the public forum and people are starting to get banned and i dont want to see that. thats all.


but to stay on topic. RIP Billy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Mays

Early life

Mays was born in McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania, attended Sto-Rox High School, and was raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.[1][6] He later attended West Virginia University, where he was a walk-on linebacker on its football team during his two years there.[7] After dropping out, he worked for his father's hazardous waste company before moving to Atlantic City, New Jersey in 1983.[1]
Career

On the Atlantic City boardwalk Mays sold the Washmatik portable washing device to passersby,[8] along with other "As Seen on TV" products.[1] In Atlantic City, he was taught how to sell by the older salesmen, saying "I was taught to pitch by a lot of old pitchmen. That's the kind of style I have."[1] Mays then traveled to home shows, auto shows, and state fairs across the United States for a period of twelve years, selling various maintenance products and tools, including cleaning products and food choppers.[8]

At a Pittsburgh home show in 1993, Mays struck up a friendship with rival salesman Max Appel, founder of Orange Glo International, a Denver-based manufacturer of cleaning products. He was then hired by the company to promote their line of cleaners, OxiClean, Orange Clean, Orange Glo, and Kaboom on the Home Shopping Network in St. Petersburg, Florida.[9] Customer response to Mays' sales pitches was enthusiastic, with a sharp increase in sales after his first day on the network, although some reviews were poor. He was very well known for shouting in an abrasive manner during infomercials. For example, Washington Post staff writer Frank Ahrens called him "a full-volume pitchman, amped up like a candidate for a tranquilizer-gun takedown".[10]

Mays was the CEO and founder of Mays Promotions, Inc., based at his home in Odessa, Florida.[4] His services as a pitchman became highly sought-after, and he appeared in commercials for many diverse "as seen on TV" products such as Mighty Putty. Mays claimed to be an avid user of the products he promoted.[11] In December 2008, Mays began appearing in ads for ESPN's online service, ESPN360.[12] These ads were a slight departure for Mays as they were designed to be parodies of his and other infomercial cliches with Mays appearing to be doing a parody of himself. He also made a live appearance during the 2008 Champs Sports Bowl promoting ESPN's and ABC's January 1, 2009 bowl games.

On April 15, 2009, the Discovery Channel began airing PitchMen, a documentary series that featured Mays and Anthony Sullivan in their jobs in direct-response marketing.[13] After Mays' death, Discovery Channel aired a special Billy Mays tribute episode of PitchMen called "Pitchman: A Tribute to Billy Mays".[14]

On March 27, 2009 Mays appeared on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno. He and Sullivan also appeared on The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien on June 23, 2009.[15]

Prior to his death Mays had signed a deal with Taco Bell to film infomercial-style commercials for the chain. Shooting was scheduled to begin in August 2009.[16]

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:14 am
by que13x
TheTyler0013 wrote:ugh not trying to act like mod. just saying. this site had gotten to a bad point with people fighting on the public forum and people are starting to get banned and i dont want to see that. thats all.

So from now on, there will be no more debating or clarifying topics on the forum(how ironic) because it will always be called fighting. Got it.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:28 am
by TheTyler0013
que13x wrote:
TheTyler0013 wrote:ugh not trying to act like mod. just saying. this site had gotten to a bad point with people fighting on the public forum and people are starting to get banned and i dont want to see that. thats all.

So from now on, there will be no more debating or clarifying topics on the forum(how ironic) because it will always be called fighting. Got it.


Not saying stop debating/arguing, but debating against about the recently deceased, who one of our members was fond of and the passing made them mourn. i don't think needs to happen out of respect. now i don't know what happened between you two. I see that you guys got in argument in PM's then airplanes threw it on to public forum by using your name so you retaliated naturally. Neither of you should have brought it to the public if it was between you to. He shouldn't have used your name. and you shouldn't have fed fuel to the fire that we know a ranting airplanes.

All in all Debating is fine and fun. But I think personal debates/arguments should stay Personal.

Is that Fair to say?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:13 am
by airplanes18
i never said he sold orange glow on HSN
quit acting like a mod

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:29 am
by TheTyler0013
So looking out for the good of the site it acting like a mod??? wow.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:34 am
by ace
Stop acting like children. I don't have a problem about debating over something and whether it's factual or not, but not when everyone is just accusing everyone of acting like a mod or something. If you have a problem with a post made PM a staff member, don't go arguing and get a thread locked. I guess no one took us serious when we said anyone flamming someone would get a 1 week ban?

If you want to have a debate over the history of Billy Mays make a new topic about it, otherwise we will leave airplanes little eulogy thingy like it is for people to read.