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Post Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:08 am

yeah but the lite version sucks a** its nothing more than psp-oss with a different name...

*EDIT* i'm sorry let me rephrase: its more like psp-oss...but worse.
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Post Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:16 am

So don't use it.
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Post Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:40 am

well see theres the problem,your PSIX pro looks bad-a** but When it first came out I didn't know you had to pay for it, so I want to get it and the site listed off all the really cool thing you could do with PSIXpro. and I got all bummed out when I realized that I had to buy the good version of thehomebrew and that sucks because I'm poor white trash.
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Post Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:24 pm

it dosent work so it really doesnt matter ive given up on trying to get it to work anyways
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Post Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:18 am

thats not the point devils. the point is that these guys flame sony for its hardball tactics and then create something really great and make us f**kin PAY FOR IT!!!! Yeah i could use the lite version.... i could also use windows 95 instead of XP. You guys have the lite version only as an alibi for makin the full version a pay package! No amount of your explaination will change my mind! You guys want ppl to pay for homebrew! F**kin leeches! What is that? You want me to be grateful for the PSIX? Yeah im grateful alright, grateful that you let the world know that you guys are greedy bast**ds!!! :x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x
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Post Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:20 am

psicryptor wrote:thats not the point devils. the point is that these guys flame sony for its hardball tactics and then create something really great and make us f**kin PAY FOR IT!!!! Yeah i could use the lite version.... i could also use windows 95 instead of XP. You guys have the lite version only as an alibi for makin the full version a pay package! No amount of your explaination will change my mind! You guys want ppl to pay for homebrew! F**kin leeches! What is that? You want me to be grateful for the PSIX? Yeah im grateful alright, grateful that you let the world know that you guys are greedy bast**ds!!! :x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x

I'm glad not everyone in the world was as narrow minded as you.
Think of it this way

you : "I heard you're hiring, im looking for a job so.."
employer : "Will you work for free?"
you : "what? no!"
employer : "why the hell should i employ you and PAY you if i can employ some ilegal immigrants and get the same work done for free?"

In the end, the payment is to seperate the supportive and the arrogant freeloaders, as the latter do not help development in the slightest, and i am proud to say, posts like yours further validate my descision to do so, well done.

psicryptor wrote:Yeah i could use the lite version.... i could also use windows 95 instead of XP.

That's a very bad anolgy, because neither of those were, or ever will be free, and psix lite will eventually get everything that pro has when it's stable, so a closer analogy would be comparing a free copy of winXP SP1, to winXP SP2 that you could only get from paying to join MSDN, the apps that msdn make eventually filter down to everyone else, free of charge, people just need to have patience is all.
And even then that analogy is only good if winXP was free, which it isn't.

"flame sony for its hardball tactics",
Err. no. i support sony and their efforts to prevent piracy of games that software houses make for their device.
In the end homebrew is just software, and any software developer can charge for their work so long as they meet certain rules and requirements, and we do so tough luck.
Rather than flaming me for selling subscriptions to services and beta software I made, that I personally spend countless hours a day support, and working with, how about you divert your attention to the freeloaders that attempt to sell other peoples homebrew and downgraders on ebay and various sites, that's the real crime of the homebrew scene.
Anyway i've made my point, sick to death of attempting to explain maturely, the ins and outs of software development, to freeloader highschool kids, so have at it psicryptor, reply with something along the lines of "w/e psix sux anyway lol".
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Post Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:34 am

thats right buddy stop explaining and get back to over-charging for homebrew and providing shi**y lite packs. Like all other homebrew devs are charging for the REALLY MUCH BETTER software they offer. You are a sad excuse for a homebrew dev dude. get off the bandwagon and go work for sony hoping to suck up to their tech honchos! You act like youve made something big (hiring ppl & paying salaries my A**)... its hardly made waves FYI! Fanjita couldve started charging too but i dont see him do that you selfish prat! Go code!
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Post Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:44 am

Thanks for proving my point yet again :)
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Post Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:09 pm

no why would u pay for a shell when psp-oss does the same thing all we were trying to do is get it for free cause they shouldent charge for homebrew when everyone else makes it for free i mean who do they think they are charging for a damn shell its pointless.
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Post Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:15 pm

*Sniff*...beautiful... again fluff it's homebrew...homebrew:PSP::Rock&Roll:Snobby People...such as you... homebrew is the peoples way of rebeling aginst sony for the crap firmware updates and the other useless things they try to push upon the people. Making people charge for firmware is like telling a rock band that they cant curse unless they pay 5 bucks for every slanderous word... it dosen't matter they will do it and they won't pay what your doing is making people angry at you. again, your making people pay to "rebel" if you will. does that make any sense? No it dosen't.
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Post Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:08 am

ignore him 'shay. He's one of those d**kweeds who thinks he's doin the community a favor. PSP OSS kicks donkey with their new shell. *Fluff just died on the inside and the world rejoiced!*
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Post Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:34 am

Yeah I can see that, but what they were doing was wrong from the begining and they should know that thay are being jacka**es. PSIX Pro is a wonderful app, no doubt about it, but when you stick a price tag on it it makes people turn the other way. This gives people the chance to do the same thing (or pretty close to the sam,e thing) at no charge, then how does that make you feel? So now what do you do, take away the price and piss off everyone who payed for theirs? How about make it free and have nobody care about it because they have something new or better. Face it, your Pro might have been bada** but now no one really cares cuz no one thinks they should have to pay... and they shouldn't. Theres no way you can win this race now guys, heh and to tell you the truth I don't feel sorry one bit. :)
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Post Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:05 pm

way to go 'shay... that was pretty logical... final respects (my a**) will be paid to fluff this noon at 3:00pM at the sad dev cemetary where unhappy psps go! :D
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Post Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:15 am

Am I the only one who thinks Fluff is making a bit of sense? I mean it looks like these people decided to do homebrew for a living, is it fair that they should give up work and their lives for no price at all? This is like saying if we have free mediocre ebooks out on the internet that now suddenly real books should have no price.
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Post Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:50 am

Samineru wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Fluff is making a bit of sense? I mean it looks like these people decided to do homebrew for a living, is it fair that they should give up work and their lives for no price at all? This is like saying if we have free mediocre ebooks out on the internet that now suddenly real books should have no price.


Ok sam, i argued with fluff cos i think he's wrong in charging people for homebrew.

You see, homebrew is made of two terms home and brew. A part of the homebrew revoution was triggered as a knee jerk response over monopoly of Sony over the PSP's capabilities. They weren't willing to make software for the PSP and even if they did they'd charge like crazy.

Then we have Mr. Fluff here who decides that he will create software for a HACKED hardware device AND charge for it! What do you know! Everyone keeps homebrew software free cos they're a part of a community that began its roots in telling Sony to play fair. But ppl like Fluff just f*ck it up. If he really does wanna develop software for the PSP (and pay the ppl who work him-quoted by him earlier, WTF) then he should become an official developer for Sony, buy their dev kit, get the license etc. Oh wait, that costs money huh? Then i guess its right to make semi-legal software? WRONG! Moral compunctions should nag only those who play the legal game. Fluff is just looking to make a few bucks off a software that should have been free (cos i dont see Sony endorsing it!)

Anyways, as i said earlier- its MY opinion (and of probably 99% of the homebrew community) so if you felt otherwise i wont stop you. Just that ive always found you to play the "im on the right side" game a bit too much... ;)

PS: Please ppl stop with the parallelisms and the similies. Take the scene for what it is, comparisions with books and computers (yeah im sorry i did earlier) or anything else will further muddle the situ. So just take it as a PSP homebrew scene and thats it!
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