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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:21 pm

DarkPacMan77 wrote:In a perfect world, I'd think what you are saying seems exactly how things should work. I'd LOVE for us to live in a time when we take the necessary steps to ensure our safety in places like schools etc. but we just don't live in that type of society. It isn't that I'm wrong, or that you're right. I think we are both right with what we are saying. You say we need more leadership to carry out these things, which is true, but also, we won't see someone take up the role of leadership until there is more incidents like this.

What I'm trying to say is that we SHOULD take action, but we just won't because it just isn't a priority for people right now. I think the only way it can become a priority is if there are more deaths, and I'm not sure if I'd want the deaths to be spread out through schools in the United States or just one large act of violence on a school that makes the United States, as a whole, realize what needs to be done.

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It shouldn't have to be that way, thats all i'm saying. Needing the problem to occur to help prevent it just proves how truely f**k up our society is.
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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:29 pm

DarkPacMan77 wrote:More than that though, it's just cold hard logic. Remember from the movie Saw 2? Perhaps some of you haven't seen the movie, but there is a line where the killer is telling a story of "how people go their whole lives drinking from the glass of water without actually tasting it." That's SADLY what makes me think the way I do.

I think the killer COULD have done more harm and SHOULD have done more harm, even if it means killing police officers, in order to make people actually CARE about this.

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Never saw it, but I get what you are saying.

Butt hats not what I'm trying to point out, It would have been nice to think that he took out some defenders of the law. The reason this is so funny is because, unless he had some crazy incentive, much like Eric and Dylan, he accomplished nothing but ending a lot of lives, he is truly a hero of the internet. I would have loved to hear he took out 1300 acres of the school, but he killed himself, if he had his death planned it would have been even more awesome. The thing thats make this so funny is what I'm going to explain next.

@ Haeso:

That is true, there are things like mental disorders that cause these things. This guy, however didn't have any disorders, I still don't know whether he was a student or not, but as of now he had nothing to achieve for this.
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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:03 pm

Seems like this guy is getting glorified. You don't know his intentions at all so i wouldn't assume that he was trying to make the world a better place by taking innocent lives.

Thats what i really don't understand about DP's point of view. It makes honest sense that what has been does really causes thought for change, but taking innocent lives is not the way to do it. I get angry thinking of such an idea.

I respect you'r opinion and thoughts though DP you have taken alot of reasonable things into consideration.
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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:02 pm

ah but there are still ways to leave your marks on the world without PHYSICALLY hurting anyone at all. a big enough act of kindness WILL make it on the news. better yet an original idea will stomp both murder and kindness flat. maybe a large enough cyber tag or incredibly innovative concept, people like steven hawking, bill gates and albert einstein will always be remembered. what if instead of murdering 2000 people, you find a way to change the lives of 6 billion?
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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:29 pm

asddasit wrote:I havent taking the time to read threw this all the way,but i would like to say this is a sad thing for all Americans. And as a student a scary one.
As for those who laugh and make light at this . Go die.

uhh how about NO U

look, people died, it was a tradgedy, big deal. People die everyday, this guy just decided to kill more than one, I find it funny. Call my a freak, call me sick, call me a loser, Call me what you like. But I don't care, I find humor in death, and it takes a strong heart to admit that, I find death amusing.

Not everyone saw this as a bad thing, you think the killer did? He's a good guy, he actually wrote a pretty funny script for a play. He felt he had to do this (even though his motives didn't seem clear).

I don't know anyone who was hurt, so I can't feel pain for them, I am as close to them as I am with the terrorist who hit the towers.

So when you tell us to die I say, NO U!

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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:07 pm

don't worry about his comment, everyone has their own opinions and it's not like
you have to follow what he's saying.
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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:39 pm

i agree with pspruler and asddasit, but supashay,
to say that its humorous is downright wrong.
to think that these students went to school that day to get an education only to find out that some psycho wanted to pull a columbine and kill 30+ people and injure some is not at all funny
this is not at all a funny event
the only humorous part is that that kid is burning in hell as we speak [or well at least what i think]

idk, maybe i dont find it funny because my father is a police officer and his reaction to this was tragic because if u think about it,
before columbine, shootings like this were not expected by officers. the only shooting at a school expected would be a shooting that was at officers at a school, but not to the students.
to safely prepare for a situation, we must have known the situation beforehand,
and i guess that this will cause more security at schools but it will happen again...and supashay will somehow find it funny
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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:58 pm

honestly. it doesnt matter. the guy was psycho hell or limbo or empty space whatever, super shay has helped me far too much for me to flame his laughing at the dead. the stuff thats come about is certainly funny. all these schools are getting on the news because they locked down their school recently when my school gets bomb threats all the time and all we do is sit outside for 10 mins. a school on the news had a domestic "disturbance" between two parents not even on the grounds of the school and they locked down. they didnt even say what the disturbance actually WAS. ::cough:: bullsh** ::cough::
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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:02 pm

lolololol
yeah, i was trying not to flame him as much as possible because supa has helped me as wellactuayll
just recently
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but lol
thats funny
what school is it?
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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:04 pm

cant even remember. its pretty lame though. "look at us look at us were doing so well!!!"
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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:05 pm

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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:09 pm

no he means the school i saw on the news.
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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:09 pm

danjo33 wrote:i agree with pspruler and asddasit, but supashay,
to say that its humorous is downright wrong.
to think that these students went to school that day to get an education only to find out that some psycho wanted to pull a columbine and kill 30+ people and injure some is not at all funny
this is not at all a funny event
the only humorous part is that that kid is burning in hell as we speak [or well at least what i think]

idk, maybe i dont find it funny because my father is a police officer and his reaction to this was tragic because if u think about it,
before columbine, shootings like this were not expected by officers. the only shooting at a school expected would be a shooting that was at officers at a school, but not to the students.
to safely prepare for a situation, we must have known the situation beforehand,
and i guess that this will cause more security at schools but it will happen again...and supashay will somehow find it funny


I'm not saying that you have to laugh with me, I'm just saying, not everyone saw this as a bad thing.

and to say it is humorous is the same thing at laughing Saddam's death video.
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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:13 pm

well... saddam was a tyrant bastard. there is a difference between student and dictator. the deaths werent ironic either, just random acts of violence. now if a midget killed 32 people id be laughing quite hard.
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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:16 pm

that is a lil different,sadaam was a terrorist leader
responsible for the deaths of...alot
im not positive,, but im pretty sure the 32 students don't fall into that category.
but i admit
death is funny, this isnt

im not saying
"omg you want me to laugh at this!?!?!?'
im simply saying i think that you should think about it in the perspective of someone who was affected by the shooting, such as afamily member, or a close friend.
idk about you, but it is alot less funny in that view

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lol midgets and violence is instant humor
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